Expansion Discussion Thread

[claphamsa]

I love all the points and discussion. It really is helpful to find the right combination of ideas to get the expansion draft planned out.

Here's what I'm thinking for the timeline of events leading up to Expansion...

-finish 2016 season (regular, playoffs, awards, Ammy Draft)
-roll to 1/1/2017
-relocate AZ to NM & CA to MD; realign AFBL into 4 5-team divisions (FL West, FL East, PL North, PL South)
-push 'Expand league and schedule Expansion Draft' function in the game
-current teams submit Protection Lists
    -30 players protected
    -players that are 22 or younger on 1/1/2017 are auto-protected
    -draft picks from 2014, 2015, and 2016 are auto-protected
    -not sure if we'll have current teams get a chance to protect extra players (maybe for the first 5 rounds?)
-Expansion Draft on 1/5/2017
    -15 rounds to allow Expansion Teams to end up with 60 players, each current team losing no more than 1 player per rd
-Free Agent Draft on 1/15/2017
    -5 rounds with just Expansion Teams picking in serpentine reverse order of Expansion Draft to allow the 4 teams to add 20 additional players to bring total to 80
-sim up to beginning of Spring Training 2017 then back to normal sim scheduel

Any thoughts?

this seems like were protecting waaaaay too many players.  if everyone under 22 is protected, Im not sure we should be able to protect more than 20, with 30 you can even protect your AAAA chaff..... the expansion teams will be Awful.

[mstreeter06]

Possibly. Would bumping that age to 21 or 20 be something worth looking into?

[claphamsa]

Possibly. Would bumping that age to 21 or 20 be something worth looking into?

I would say no, make people chose between their ML players and their prospects not have both. maybe run a dummy list for your team?  if you protect 3o players and cut out all under 22 (or 20) will there be any players over 1.5 stars available?

[mstreeter06]

Hmm what about combining the two ideas?

20 players protected by current teams with players 20 and younger on 1/1/2017 auto-protected?

UPDATE: Do we need to auto protect more than the 2016 Ammy Draft? 2015? 2014?

[Troyaof]

I think we are fine with 20 protected and all under 22. No pull backs, no adds. Just 20+ 22 and under.
Its to the point that we are over thinking this.

[LT]

I think we are fine with 20 protected and all under 22. No pull backs, no adds. Just 20+ 22 and under.
Its to the point that we are over thinking this.

So under 22 or 22 and under?

[claphamsa]

I think we are fine with 20 protected and all under 22. No pull backs, no adds. Just 20+ 22 and under.
Its to the point that we are over thinking this.

eh, I kinda agree on the overthinking... but it depends on how long it will take the expansion teams to be relevant.  protecting 20 players means they will have the chance to pick out MRs and 4th OFs....

[LT]

I think we are fine with 20 protected and all under 22. No pull backs, no adds. Just 20+ 22 and under.
Its to the point that we are over thinking this.

eh, I kinda agree on the overthinking... but it depends on how long it will take the expansion teams to be relevant.  protecting 20 players means they will have the chance to pick out MRs and 4th OFs....

Out of those MR/4th OF there will be a small amount of guys who become ok regulars/starters. But it will take 5+ seasons for expansion teams to be relevant IMO. I think the news that the expansion teams are not part of the 2016 amateur draft sets them back a touch.

[Troyaof]

Not to mention they will draft 1st in 2017 (and probably a couple seasons after that ) I guess it depends on how fast you want them to be competitve.
How about this I went and looked up MLB rules and they use: "major league teams may protect 15 players prior to the draft." and then also protect any with less than 3 years experience which we are kinda doing with the 22 and under rule. So what if we did 15 + all players 22 and under. That puts 5 more MLB players out per team which is an extra 80 players. 40 per team which will likely be starters right off.

[fhomess]

I won't fight this point too hard if the majority disagree, but I think the pickings will be slim with the way things are set up (and rightly so).

"What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on here?"

[LT]

I won't fight this point too hard if the majority disagree, but I think the pickings will be slim with the way things are set up (and rightly so).

"What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on here?"

lol

[BaseballAddict32]

Possibly. Would bumping that age to 21 or 20 be something worth looking into?

I would say no, make people chose between their ML players and their prospects not have both. maybe run a dummy list for your team?  if you protect 3o players and cut out all under 22 (or 20) will there be any players over 1.5 stars available?

well said.

[24Rocks]

I agree with the above I have a few Major league players that just dont fit in to my plans but are young enough to still be good looking for maybe the first few seasons of a expantion team

[Troyaof]

I agree with the above I have a few Major league players that just dont fit in to my plans but are young enough to still be good looking for maybe the first few seasons of a expantion team

Which one above? Nevada's?

[claphamsa]

also, in reality, any decent player picked is gonna get traded before the first season