Ammy Draft Date

[mstreeter06]

I have been thinking about how much the league comes to a stand still during the Ammy Draft (usually 2 or 3 real weeks).

What about if we move the Ammy Draft date to June 1st and have the Ammy Draft Pool plus International FAs revealed on February 1st (or close to that)? Then have the Ammy Draft ongoing during Spring Training, April, and May. This would give us nearly 3 real life weeks to get the draft done. We would still use the same method for draft order just from the most recent season.

Any thoughts about this or should we keep the draft on Nov 15th?

[claphamsa]

anything to speed up the nevernding offseason

[LT]

good idea.

[mstreeter06]

I'm still testing this out but it is very likely that the Ammy Draft date will move from November 15th of the current season to June 1st of the next season.

If this happens and it is 99% likely this will work, the 2024 Amateur Draft would be moved from November 15th, 2024 until June 1st, 2025 with the Ammy Draft pool and International Free Agent amateurs revealed on February 2nd/3rd, 2025. We would use the 2024 season standings and postseason results for the draft order just like normal.

[JKGuy16]

I like this.  We can push through seasons faster and do the draft over a longer stretch of time.

[silverwolf]

New here, but the idea of drafting while running the rest of the sims doing spring training and the first part of the season works well in other leagues I have been a part of. 

The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes a player's ratings will drop from the time the pool is introduced and the draft begins in StatsLab vs. the time when the draft finishes and is input into the game.  Suppose it could work where you get a rating improvement in that time period, too, and it's part of the game either way, just note that the ratings that get loaded into StatsLab at Feb in-game won't necessarily be the same when the player is added to the rosters on June 1st. in-game.

[mstreeter06]

New here, but the idea of drafting while running the rest of the sims doing spring training and the first part of the season works well in other leagues I have been a part of. 

The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes a player's ratings will drop from the time the pool is introduced and the draft begins in StatsLab vs. the time when the draft finishes and is input into the game.  Suppose it could work where you get a rating improvement in that time period, too, and it's part of the game either way, just note that the ratings that get loaded into StatsLab at Feb in-game won't necessarily be the same when the player is added to the rosters on June 1st. in-game.

That is true but I think like you said that's all a part of the game of baseball

[Steve Wunda]

Sounds good to me

[mstreeter06]

Slight update and change to the new Ammy Draft date after I realized that the College season goes through June...

I'm double checking things now in a test world of AFBL but I'm planning on moving the High School and College seasons to start March 1st from April 1st, move the Ammy Draft from June 1st to July 10th, and the Draft Pool and International FAs reveal to April 1st. This will keep the HS season at 50 games and the COL season at 100 games.

[tjsmith7 GA]

In season draft makes sense.  Would the R level teams have a later season start, or do the drafted players just have to wait that extra season to play? 

If this happens and it is 99% likely this will work, the 2024 Amateur Draft would be moved from November 15th, 2024 until June 1st, 2025

Doesn't this mean players will lose a year of minors development? 

[mstreeter06]

In season draft makes sense.  Would the R level teams have a later season start, or do the drafted players just have to wait that extra season to play?

They would just join whatever level of minors you chose in progress since all levels play until September at some point.

Doesn't this mean players will lose a year of minors development?

I'm leaning toward having the 2024 Ammy Draft this July 10 with some version of a weighted draft lottery so we don't miss an Ammy Draft.

[mstreeter06]

We need to decide one way or the other for the Ammy Draft date move or to keep it where it has been. We've been having a discussion in GroupMe (join us if you aren't there ) and I need to hear more from the league.

If we move the draft to midseason (July 10th), the first draft we do this would result in having a 1-time weighted draft lottery with the non-playoffs teams in one tier (picks 1-12) and the playoffs teams in their own tier with weighed odds for picks 13-20.

Moving the draft would speed things up about 2 real life weeks and give us from April 1 until the All-Star Break which is about 3.5 real life weeks to finish 8 rounds of drafting.

I'm completely fine with either decision but we need to decide either way. With the uncertainty about this, I'm leaning toward keeping things as they are for 2024 and discussing this over the 2024 season to decide on for 2025.

[mikezone13]

My thoughts have been spelt out in groupme, but for clarity, here they are.

I strongly believe that it's not broken so we shouldn't try to fix it.

Put a constant timer on the draft, moving from 24hrs per pick for the first 2 rnds, to 12hrs for rnds 3-5 and 8hrs to rnds 6-8 AND, the most important part, as soon as you have picked send a group email to ALL GMs saying "Team X is on the clock". We then set a draft MUST be finished by day X, and just auto all picks not made, you should then see guys pick up their game next draft. Remember that every RL week is only 3 sims, so having a draft deadline of 14 days after the regular season ends (or after the playoffs end) is not very many 'missed' sims.

We should then have the draft done we with is suggested above and it doesn't have to move. It's the responsibilities of each GM to think of his other GMs, I know that I, being in Australia, try as much as I can to set a list of at least as many players I'll need if the draft is likely to get to me before I go to sleep, so that the draft doesn't hold up for others - it's simple draft etiquette, if you're unlikely to be available, set a list - it doesn't have to be 20 players deep.

Also, by moving the draft and having a lottery there is NO fair way, just a random way of distributing the picks.

[mstreeter06]

We're going to just keep the Ammy Draft in November at least for 2024 and likely beyond.

[mstreeter06]

I really think we need to revisit this topic especially after this draft dragging on.

The first moved draft would be an unique one on the process but after that it would be great.

Move the draft to June or July in game which would give us several weeks to get the draft finished without slowing us down like usual in the offseason.

Thoughts?