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We will hold our annual Winter Meetings here. We will discuss any rule changes, improvements, or anything else that needs to be addressed before the 2019 season...
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2018 Winter Meetings: Topics To Discuss
- Interleague Play: keep Interleague play or revert back to none?
- Designated Hitter: keep as is with no DH, 1 league with DH, or both leagues with DH?
- Storylines in-game option: leave on or turn off?
- Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? If upgrade to OOTP15, target year for start: 2020?
- Ratings: stay at 1-10 or move to 1-20?
- Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games or split into 2 sims to have a final 3-game series sim?
- Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards) or add a 3rd Wildcard for 5 total playoff teams (play-in 1 or 3 game series between Wildcards 2 and 3 to earn 4th and final seed in playoffs)?
- Future plans/ideas: target year for Expansion Phase 2 to get to 24 total teams?, add another minor league level?, add FA draft w/ International/Amateur FAs/another baseball world?, adjust/update names.dat?
- Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?
- Anything else?
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I love inter league play and believe it should stay. Again, no reason we all shouldn't be playing each other.
I prefer no DH.
I'm indifferent on story lines, despite being a victim to one in Luis Bravo.
I have no problem upgrading to OOTP15 if that's the consensus. Just let me know and I'll download it.
I'm not familiar enough with this game to know how much different ratings are using a 10 or 20 point scale. I assume 20 would simply be twice as accurate when it comes to ratings. No preference for me.
I would prefer keeping the final sim just like the rest. Every game is equally important, no reason to make the season longer as I love the pace we do things here.
40% playoff qualification is perfect in my book. I like where we are at and see no reason to have a 5th while we have 20 teams.
As I've always said about expansion, I would be for this ONLY if we currently have 100% of GM's active and committed and we have more that are ready to go.
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I only have one thing to say, we want Tim Francis back!!! jejej
About the rest of the things, I love the interleague so I keep it
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Interleague Play: Keep exactly as is, nice balance
Designated Hitter: no DH
Storylines in-game option: keep it on for consistency, even though I don't like them...lol
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? Preference to stick to 14 for now
Ratings: stay at 1-10, the whole farbic of the league changes otherwise, we already know 'exact' ratings due to no scouts, don't make it any easier
Final regular season sim: keep as last 10 games
Playoff format: maintain as is 4 out of 20 is a nice number, 20% of teams make the playoffs
Future plans/ideas: complete custom uniforms for full minor leagues :D, it's coming
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Interleague Play: Keep
Designated Hitter: prefer no DH
Storylines in-game option: leave on
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? don't care. just let me know.
Ratings: don't care.
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games
Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards)
Future plans/ideas: I am with JK - if we have 100% committed ownership then expansion.
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?- sure
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Interleague Play: Keep
Designated Hitter: Yes
Storylines in-game option: Don't Care
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16?15
Ratings: For just cause
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games
Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards)
Future plans/ideas: Not unless we have made the entire season before with 0 turnover. Then we can plan it the following season
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?- I spose
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Interleague Play: Keep
Designated Hitter: No
Storylines in-game option: Keep
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? Will upgrade if needed.
Ratings: keep 1-10
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games
Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards)
Future plans/ideas: As I've always said about expansion, I would be for this ONLY if we currently have 100% of GM's active and committed and we have more that are ready to go.
Maybe add some type of international league where some free agents make it over to our league every year, or a winter league such as the Dominican League where we can send younger players (players who have not been over a certain level and age) to develop quicker.
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?- Sure
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Interleague Play: Keep
Designated Hitter: prefer DH but in one league only
Storylines in-game option: leave on
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? I have it so i we do its cool
Ratings: personaly I play my solo leagues at 1-20 so ya
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games
Playoff format: keep current playoff format
Future plans/ideas: if we can find active owners then ya im all for it
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?- I guess
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Interleague Play: keep Interleague play or revert back to none?
Keep interleague play, helps give teams that might otherwise not intersect some cohesiveness in the league
Designated Hitter: keep as is with no DH, 1 league with DH, or both leagues with DH?
No DH
Storylines in-game option: leave on or turn off?
Leave On
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? If upgrade to OOTP15, target year for start: 2020?
OOTP15 is fine, already have it installed.
Ratings: stay at 1-10 or move to 1-20?
If we ever change I'd favor the 20-80 system over 1-20
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games or split into 2 sims to have a final 3-game series sim?
No real opinion here as a non contender think for contenders splitting it up makes sense in case an adjustment might help playoff push
Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards) or add a 3rd Wildcard for 5 total playoff teams (play-in 1 or 3 game series between Wildcards 2 and 3 to earn 4th and final seed in playoffs)?
Keep it as is
Future plans/ideas: target year for Expansion Phase 2 to get to 24 total teams?, add another minor league level?, add FA draft w/ International/Amateur FAs/another baseball world?, adjust/update names.dat?
Add International free agents and also suggest adding more rounds worth of players than the draft has rounds on regular draft to deepen the number of quality players that will likely work in continuity with more players in draft.
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?
Maybe, LOL
Anything else?
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upgrade to 15, change nothing else
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Future plans/ideas: target year for Expansion Phase 2 to get to 24 total teams?, add another minor league level?, add FA draft w/ International/Amateur FAs/another baseball world?, adjust/update names.dat?
suggest adding more rounds worth of players than the draft has rounds on regular draft to deepen the number of quality players that will likely work in continuity with more players in draft.
Agree with this, I had a 4th round pick make it and win 14 games for me but other then the expansion year draft, after first and maybe early 2nd round there is nothing good in the draft and it would give added value to picks like my 4rd-7th round picks are basically the same, but now with feeder leagues its harder I screwed this up and for 12 years in my solo league the 5th-30th round were not very good players.
I would suggest make the feeder league at 24 or 30 teams am maybe give us 8 rounds
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We currently have 8 rounds with 9 rounds generated for the Ammy Draft.
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If you make it 11 rounds or more Generated we would get a few more good quality players and a few more middle of the road guys and then thast means a few more FA but we pick up the good ones any way pretty fast. It would take about a year or 2 to see effects.
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It's definitely something I'm watching for and is an option we have in the future if the draft pools don't improve. In my testing, the pools will get better, plateau, and go in cycles if my testing is any indication.
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Oregon is definitely all on board so we just need to hear from Iowa.
I have found 1 new owner to take over one of the openings.
Thanks guys!
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If you make it 11 rounds or more Generated we would get a few more good quality players and a few more middle of the road guys and then thast means a few more FA but we pick up the good ones any way pretty fast. It would take about a year or 2 to see effects.
Agreed. Hopefully there would also be more positions with some quality. When I look at the draft pool on the first two pages, if you will, worth of scrolling down there are two infielders, both 3bs. No 1b, 2b or SS. In that regard I am not sure what the answer is as it always seems to do that. I'll be honest at times when I get far into leagues I do on my own and it does this I will save it right before the draft pool is released and if its a problem I won't save the league I will exit the game and create a new draft pool. Not sure what can be done on this platform though.
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I need to double check but it might be different with feeder leagues.
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2018 Winter Meetings: Topics To Discuss
Interleague Play: Interleague works for me.
Designated Hitter: I'm anti-DH myself.
Storylines in-game option: leave on\
Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? I'll follow on with the rest of the group if they want to upgrade.
Ratings: stay at 1-10 or move to 1-20? I'm fine with either.
Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games or split into 2 sims to have a final 3-game series sim? keep as os
Playoff format: keep current playoff format
Future plans/ideas: I'm fine with expansion when demand for teams. I don't think we need another league.
Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)? Bring him back.
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- Interleague Play: keep Interleague play or revert back to none? Get rid of it.
- Designated Hitter: keep as is with no DH, 1 league with DH, or both leagues with DH? No DH in FL. I like having the AL/NL difference, so am in favor of DH in one league, but would prefer to not have it in mine. Generally, I think this is the type of thing that the owners of each league should be allowed to vote on independent of what the owners in the other league decide.
- Storylines in-game option: leave on or turn off? I prefer off, but don't really mind leaving it on.
- Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? If upgrade to OOTP15, target year for start: 2020? Upgrade in 2020.
- Ratings: stay at 1-10 or move to 1-20? Stay at 1-10. I'm not opposed to 20-80, but really prefer to have less accurate ratings.
- Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games or split into 2 sims to have a final 3-game series sim? Split into two sims.
- Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards) or add a 3rd Wildcard for 5 total playoff teams (play-in 1 or 3 game series between Wildcards 2 and 3 to earn 4th and final seed in playoffs)? Keep it as is.
- Future plans/ideas: target year for Expansion Phase 2 to get to 24 total teams?, add another minor league level?, add FA draft w/ International/Amateur FAs/another baseball world?, adjust/update names.dat? One of the things I like about this league is the relative simplicity of it. On the ammy draft, I think we need to be careful about tinkering too much with it. The 2016 draft looks way out of place with all of the other drafts. Even adding 1 round of players can have a reasonably big impact on things. Lower talent draft pools make talent changes have a bigger impact, and decrease the value of picks. I actually think that's a good thing.
In terms of expansion, the important thing to remember is that leagues hover around 10% turnover each offseason, so adding more teams typically increases the recruiting requirements. I do like larger divisions, though. - Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)? Don't care one way or another... but if you're going to do this type of things for players that "retire" due to storylines, there needs to be a policy in place on when reinstatement happens/doesn't. I foresee some upset GM's if they don't get their guy back.
- Anything else? Ok.
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For the bringing back of "retired" players... we have had 2 cases with Luis Bravo and Ron Pratt. I've gone by a 2 full seasons retired rule but I do think I need to get something in writing. Either keep it at the 2 years, increase the wait time, or get rid of doing this all together?
I agree with you Frank on the Ammy Draft tinkering and such. Right now, we have 8 rounds with 9 rounds of talent generated. Is this a good balance? Does using the feeder leagues have any affect on the quality and such of the draft pools and the difference between the number of rounds and number of rounds generated?
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For the bringing back of "retired" players... we have had 2 cases with Luis Bravo and Ron Pratt. I've gone by a 2 full seasons retired rule but I do think I need to get something in writing. Either keep it at the 2 years, increase the wait time, or get rid of doing this all together?
I don't really care what the policy is, as long as it's applied consistently. We shouldn't have to vote each time and I doubt people are going to say no when we do vote.
I agree with you Frank on the Ammy Draft tinkering and such. Right now, we have 8 rounds with 9 rounds of talent generated. Is this a good balance? Does using the feeder leagues have any affect on the quality and such of the draft pools and the difference between the number of rounds and number of rounds generated?
I'm fairly certain the nature of feeder leagues changes the draft. I can't tell you specifically how, because I haven't done comparative testing, but anecdotally I suspect we'll get a better draft pool and have more quality hitters from skill positions. I think you also tend to see more 2-pitch guys who might or might not learn a 3rd pitch and be able to start some day, but fewer guys who are sure future SP's.
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For the bringing back of "retired" players... we have had 2 cases with Luis Bravo and Ron Pratt. I've gone by a 2 full seasons retired rule but I do think I need to get something in writing. Either keep it at the 2 years, increase the wait time, or get rid of doing this all together?
I don't really care what the policy is, as long as it's applied consistently. We shouldn't have to vote each time and I doubt people are going to say no when we do vote.
I agree with you Frank on the Ammy Draft tinkering and such. Right now, we have 8 rounds with 9 rounds of talent generated. Is this a good balance? Does using the feeder leagues have any affect on the quality and such of the draft pools and the difference between the number of rounds and number of rounds generated?
I'm fairly certain the nature of feeder leagues changes the draft. I can't tell you specifically how, because I haven't done comparative testing, but anecdotally I suspect we'll get a better draft pool and have more quality hitters from skill positions. I think you also tend to see more 2-pitch guys who might or might not learn a 3rd pitch and be able to start some day, but fewer guys who are sure future SP's.
If my solo league is any example, feeder leagues from the start of league other then the very first draft, You tend to see alot of 3 pitch pitcher with 2 great pitches but shitty change up so not full time starters but there are a lot of pen guys, but in OOTP14 my drafts I saw a good number of 4-5 pitch guys start to show up more and have pretty good careers but my league is big so with a smaller league we should see a few of those as time goes on.
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Honestly part of the flaw is in the game there is simply no way to actively improve prospects and where most games players are entered as finished products this game leaves a long lag for development but no way to participate in that. Posted this on the main OOTP discussion forum.
"Playing in an online league and seeing the ammy draft pools lack year after year one thing I thought about was a need for manual player development. A way to sort of choose what you want a pitcher to develop and put some sort of points or something that will allow you to budget improvements like scouting budget but for developing a third pitch for a pitcher or stamina for a great three pitch pitcher. As is there is no way to actively develop players other than hoping they do. Work ethic and such can still be x-factors in development, but it gives someone a chance to work with player development like in real baseball. Seems to be the next step in the evolution of the game. At least its just a suggestion FWIW."
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"Playing in an online league and seeing the ammy draft pools lack year after year one thing I thought about was a need for manual player development. A way to sort of choose what you want a pitcher to develop and put some sort of points or something that will allow you to budget improvements like scouting budget but for developing a third pitch for a pitcher or stamina for a great three pitch pitcher. As is there is no way to actively develop players other than hoping they do. Work ethic and such can still be x-factors in development, but it gives someone a chance to work with player development like in real baseball. Seems to be the next step in the evolution of the game. At least its just a suggestion FWIW."
In versions of OOTP prior to 2006 (OOTP6.5 and earlier), you had a ST screen with points you could allocate to your players to have them work on specific areas. What would appear to be a step forward would actually be bringing back an old feature. ;)
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From OOTP2-6.5, spring training was a time to focus on certain skills and there were no actual games. When the game moved to OOTP 2006, it did away with the training aspect.
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Ha, I guess I should have read that old "another post was made while you were typing" and not been Frank's echo.
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"Playing in an online league and seeing the ammy draft pools lack year after year one thing I thought about was a need for manual player development. A way to sort of choose what you want a pitcher to develop and put some sort of points or something that will allow you to budget improvements like scouting budget but for developing a third pitch for a pitcher or stamina for a great three pitch pitcher. As is there is no way to actively develop players other than hoping they do. Work ethic and such can still be x-factors in development, but it gives someone a chance to work with player development like in real baseball. Seems to be the next step in the evolution of the game. At least its just a suggestion FWIW."
In versions of OOTP prior to 2006 (OOTP6.5 and earlier), you had a ST screen with points you could allocate to your players to have them work on specific areas. What would appear to be a step forward would actually be bringing back an old feature. ;)
Bad idea to remove that then. Such a critical component of this sort of simulation.
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I remember my first few Online leagues When i was 12, 13 and some league you could buy a 5 points or 10 points out of your budget to improve a guy or stuff, We could bring that in to consideration but 1 point lol for this league im older now but since there's no money that would be hard for this league.
I was just thinking after a post on the fourm about sound that i should Download OOTP 5, i miss when you could see who your fav player got there first hit off off :(
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- Interleague Play: Keep Current Schedule
- Designated Hitter: No for PL; don't care about FL ;D
- Storylines in-game option: leave on
- Upgrade to OOTP15 for start of 1st season after 1st patch
- Ratings: stay at 1-10
- Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games
- Playoff format: keep current playoff format
- Future plans/ideas: eh, none of those right now
- Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis
I agree with the other poster that we need to just formalize that all storyline-related players can be re-instated with no vote needed... some of them will need to be clarified (leaves for NFL career) but the ones that include a timeline should be automatic.
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Here's another idea we can consider...
Changing the number of game days per sim from 10 or 11 to 7. Sims could go from Sunday to Saturday. This could allow teams to use the daily lineups function which is based on 7 days and not 10.
I'm fine with either way.
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Here's another idea we can consider...
Changing the number of game days per sim from 10 or 11 to 7. Sims could go from Sunday to Saturday. This could allow teams to use the daily lineups function which is based on 7 days and not 10.
I'm fine with either way.
I would love this I use 7 day line ups anyway to try things but it would make our season longer buy a few sims
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- Interleague Play: keep Interleague play or revert back to none?
Keep interleague.
- Designated Hitter: keep as is with no DH, 1 league with DH, or both leagues with DH?
I'm of the same opinion I've stated before, wouldn't mind either way but would prefer both leagues to have the same rules for stats/records purposes.
- Storylines in-game option: leave on or turn off?
Leave them on, but only if we're going to abide by the consequences.
- Upgrade to OOTP15 or wait for OOTP16? If upgrade to OOTP15, target year for start: 2020?
I have 15 so either way is good. If it's going to happen I would wait at least until the 2020 season just for more patching.
- Ratings: stay at 1-10 or move to 1-20?
1-10
- Final regular season sim: keep at last 10 games or split into 2 sims to have a final 3-game series sim?
Is this primarily for playoff teams to set their pitching rotations, or in case there are tight playoff races? Not sure.
- Playoff format: keep current playoff format (4 teams per league, 2 division winners & 2 wildcards) or add a 3rd Wildcard for
5 total playoff teams (play-in 1 or 3 game series between Wildcards 2 and 3 to earn 4th and final seed in playoffs)?
Keep as is.
- Future plans/ideas: target year for Expansion Phase 2 to get to 24 total teams?, add another minor league level?, add FA draft w/ International/Amateur FAs/another baseball world?, adjust/update names.dat?
I'd give the current expansion clubs at least 5 seasons before more expansion. I don't know why, that just sounds like a good number for their first couple of drafts to start yielding viable players. I wouldn't really make any other major changes to the league at this time.
- Reinstate Texas 2B Tim Francis (2 years removed from kidney donation)?
Nope.
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Here's another idea we can consider...
Changing the number of game days per sim from 10 or 11 to 7. Sims could go from Sunday to Saturday. This could allow teams to use the daily lineups function which is based on 7 days and not 10.
I'm fine with either way.
NOOoOOO
if you do this... has to be 5 days a week.
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I'm against the 7 day sim, league goes at a nice pace at the moment, 1 in-game month per real-time week.
If we went to 7 day sims, we'd be tacking an extra 4 real-time weeks on a season.
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Im with claphamsa and mike! 10 days per sim are perfect for me
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Yeah, I am another vote for the current 10 day sim.
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Yeah, I am another vote for the current 10 day sim.
I agree. love the pace of this league.
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I love the pace but I hate when my relievers start
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I'd like to add to the vote to have the draft clock start the minute the Playoffs end....
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Yeah I love the pace of the league as well. We've been knocking out seasons (start of Spring Training to end of Ammy Draft) in roughly 10 weeks or so.
For the 7-day lineups... it could become a pain but you could post your final 3-4 days worth of lineups in a thread in Sim Instructions. I could go in and update your lineups.
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For the 7-day lineups... it could become a pain but you could post your final 3-4 days worth of lineups in a thread in Sim Instructions. I could go in and update your lineups.
Hahaha, you'll get tired of that very quickly I bet :)
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For the 7-day lineups... it could become a pain but you could post your final 3-4 days worth of lineups in a thread in Sim Instructions. I could go in and update your lineups.
Hahaha, you'll get tired of that very quickly I bet :)
Maybe but if needed I will :)
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-Keep interleague play
-No DH, I feel like it just makes it a little tougher to set your lineups without a dh, rather than just throwing a bat in
-Yes on storylines, sure it sucks to lose a great player but I feel like it just adds a little something extra
-I own ootp 15 so I'm not opposed to using it
-I like the 1-10 system if we switched to anything id like the 20-80 scale :P
-Yes on splitting the last sim, I think it could add a little excitement and allows teams to set up pitching for playoffs
-Keep current playoff format
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If anyone knows of someone looking for a league or that would be a good fit for us, please send them this way. I'm having some trouble getting the open spots filled in the first few days of putting the word out.
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im asking a few people
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With Mike's approval, we are moving the Oregon Explorers logo back to its original one.
(http://www.afblbaseball.com/afbl/images/oregon_explorers_90.png)
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New file is up! It includes the 2018 Season Awards, recent trades, and first 23 picks of the Ammy Draft. I can release a new file on Friday or Monday depending on our Ammy Draft progress. Reports and Statslab will be updated soon.
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I'll keep this thread going until we reach the end of the offseason which should be in the next week or so. Here is how I'm gauging things...
No major changes to the league...
-keeping Interleague Play for good
-no to the DH; in the future it will be up to the 2 leagues (FL, PL) to decide
-keeping ratings at 1-10
-keeping current playoff format; we'll revisit when/if we expand or enough chatter before that
-keeping current sim schedule of 10 in-game day sims, 3 times a week (M-W-F); occasionally sims will be shorter/longer (non-1st start date, ASG, trade deadline, end of regular season) and I'll be sure to post if the sim will be abnormal
Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
-Upgrade to OOTP15: nearly everyone is on board for OOTP15 (if you need help getting the new version, let me know and we'll figure something out) so the decision is now is when? I'm all for playing the upcoming 2019 season as our last with OOTP14 and then upgrade to OOTP15 before the 2020 season. Is 2020 a good year to upgrade or should we wait for a few more AFBL seasons?
Thoughts?
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2020 is good year its a nice round number
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I say keep storylines - weird shit happens in real life why not in this league.
2020 is fine for an upgrade.
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Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
I dont see the point to keep the storylines working. Its funny when you read the storylines but when you suffer the consecuences its not that funny. In my experience, a kid retired and thats not fair. If we put some age minimum or something like that to reinstate players retired by the storylines could be an option but as I said, its not fair at all to lose one of your best players with only a season played for things like this.
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Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
I dont see the point to keep the storylines working. Its funny when you read the storylines but when you suffer the consecuences its not that funny. In my experience, a kid retired and thats not fair. If we put some age minimum or something like that to reinstate players retired by the storylines could be an option but as I said, its not fair at all to lose one of your best players with only a season played for things like this.
It may not be fair, but it's the same chances for everyone.
IMO - what's not fair is changing the retirement rule for these AFTER 3 guys have come back. So I believe the following options are the only valid ones:
1. If storylines remain on, all players who retire come back after two years, as has been the case with Bravo, Pratt and Francis
2. Storylines off completely
Those seem the only 2 fair options,.
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Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
I dont see the point to keep the storylines working. Its funny when you read the storylines but when you suffer the consecuences its not that funny. In my experience, a kid retired and thats not fair. If we put some age minimum or something like that to reinstate players retired by the storylines could be an option but as I said, its not fair at all to lose one of your best players with only a season played for things like this.
It may not be fair, but it's the same chances for everyone.
IMO - what's not fair is changing the retirement rule for these AFTER 3 guys have come back. So I believe the following options are the only valid ones:
1. If storylines remain on, all players who retire come back after two years, as has been the case with Bravo, Pratt and Francis
2. Storylines off completely
Those seem the only 2 fair options,.
I see your point. I would be fine with keeping the 2 year rule in place. The 2-year thing was never really a rule just happened to be what I used for our 1st case.
I'm all for going with the majority on this one.
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Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
I dont see the point to keep the storylines working. Its funny when you read the storylines but when you suffer the consecuences its not that funny. In my experience, a kid retired and thats not fair. If we put some age minimum or something like that to reinstate players retired by the storylines could be an option but as I said, its not fair at all to lose one of your best players with only a season played for things like this.
It may not be fair, but it's the same chances for everyone.
IMO - what's not fair is changing the retirement rule for these AFTER 3 guys have come back. So I believe the following options are the only valid ones:
1. If storylines remain on, all players who retire come back after two years, as has been the case with Bravo, Pratt and Francis
2. Storylines off completely
Those seem the only 2 fair options,.
I see your point. I would be fine with keeping the 2 year rule in place. The 2-year thing was never really a rule just happened to be what I used for our 1st case.
I'm all for going with the majority on this one.
Reinstatements are causing too many issues and it could devasate a team. I am thinking if a storyline hit Bernie Ratzlaff I'd probably quit cause it'd set my team back 5 years
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This was my thinking about either leaving it on but don't bring back any causalities or turn the storylines setting off. Like I said, I'm fine with whatever we decide.
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Alright, I vote then to turn OFF storylines, let's keep this league all about baseball.
The mormon missions, white collar crime, kidney donations and professional golfing careers can go!
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Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
I dont see the point to keep the storylines working. Its funny when you read the storylines but when you suffer the consecuences its not that funny. In my experience, a kid retired and thats not fair. If we put some age minimum or something like that to reinstate players retired by the storylines could be an option but as I said, its not fair at all to lose one of your best players with only a season played for things like this.
It may not be fair, but it's the same chances for everyone.
IMO - what's not fair is changing the retirement rule for these AFTER 3 guys have come back. So I believe the following options are the only valid ones:
1. If storylines remain on, all players who retire come back after two years, as has been the case with Bravo, Pratt and Francis
2. Storylines off completely
Those seem the only 2 fair options,.
Bravo cam back in 2017 thats 3 years, 4 if you count most of the 2013 season
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Agreed with Mike i love the option but since we didnt start off with a good option for it, and i really d\dont want to lose a owner because of some story line It would suck to lose Maillot
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Agreed with Mike i love the option but since we didnt start off with a good option for it, and i really d\dont want to lose a owner because of some story line It would suck to lose Maillot
Right! It could ruin you! :) Anyway at this point i vote to turn it off.
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I change my vote to turn the story lines off. Reinstate anyone that has been effected after the 2year period and turn them off starting this upcoming season.
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A bump for the final few days of discussion
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Turn them off
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I'll keep this thread going until we reach the end of the offseason which should be in the next week or so. Here is how I'm gauging things...
No major changes to the league...
-keeping Interleague Play for good
-no to the DH; in the future it will be up to the 2 leagues (FL, PL) to decide
-keeping ratings at 1-10
-keeping current playoff format; we'll revisit when/if we expand or enough chatter before that
-keeping current sim schedule of 10 in-game day sims, 3 times a week (M-W-F); occasionally sims will be shorter/longer (non-1st start date, ASG, trade deadline, end of regular season) and I'll be sure to post if the sim will be abnormal
Two biggest decisions...
-OOTP storylines option: we will either decide to leave it turned on but, after Tim Francis, no reinstatements (unretiring manually has caused too many issues) or turn the option off completely. I'm 50/50 on which I would prefer but right now I'm for leaving enabled without any reinstatements.
-Upgrade to OOTP15: nearly everyone is on board for OOTP15 (if you need help getting the new version, let me know and we'll figure something out) so the decision is now is when? I'm all for playing the upcoming 2019 season as our last with OOTP14 and then upgrade to OOTP15 before the 2020 season. Is 2020 a good year to upgrade or should we wait for a few more AFBL seasons?
Thoughts?
We will be turning storylines off and be upgrading to OOTP15 for the 2020 season. AFBL will make an official announcement later today!